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		<title>By: Lose weight fastest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lose weight fastest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 04:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to check out your weblog a couple times a week for new readings. I was wondering when you have any other topics you write about? You’re a really fascinating writer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to check out your weblog a couple times a week for new readings. I was wondering when you have any other topics you write about? You’re a really fascinating writer!</p>
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		<title>By: Double Headboard ·</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double Headboard ·</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have several oil paintings at home. some are even vintage old paintings that dates back several decades ago                                       ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have several oil paintings at home. some are even vintage old paintings that dates back several decades ago                                       ..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a prospect comes to me who wants my product, and price is either the first thing out of his mouth or a dominant factor in the deal, I price myself out of his range. These prospects rarely lead to great clients.

Those focused on price lose focus on value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a prospect comes to me who wants my product, and price is either the first thing out of his mouth or a dominant factor in the deal, I price myself out of his range. These prospects rarely lead to great clients.</p>
<p>Those focused on price lose focus on value.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing story... sorry it happened, but people pay what they believe is the value of the product or service. I saw his website and went WOW! did they not see it? did they not know who he was, is etc... and drew sold out on his first price... then the second, you should have said hmmph and left it at that. then gone to find another van company, and present the concept.

It&#039;s also about the negotiation, some people in business just try to beat the price down no matter what. it&#039;s a prick! but that&#039;s what they do so find other clients. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing story&#8230; sorry it happened, but people pay what they believe is the value of the product or service. I saw his website and went WOW! did they not see it? did they not know who he was, is etc&#8230; and drew sold out on his first price&#8230; then the second, you should have said hmmph and left it at that. then gone to find another van company, and present the concept.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also about the negotiation, some people in business just try to beat the price down no matter what. it&#8217;s a prick! but that&#8217;s what they do so find other clients. <img src='http://mariabrophy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unfortunate story here is that is really common place, and sometimes it is hard not to be an ass in response, but it is always better to keep it professional.

I have people use the, &quot;Well this other guy can do it at this price,&quot; at which time I usually say thank you for the inquiry, and feel free to contact us if you have any future projects. Essentially just walk away.

Artists can be our own worst enemies. I have had one scenario where an artist not only undercut me, but took a digital concept and painted it for the client (despite watermarks on the concept art). The client had actually taken the sketches and solicited others to paint the piece, to save a couple hundred dollars. Anyways the artist that painted the piece was paid a personal visit, the client I let be as even if they have work for me I am sure that I will be booked solid, even if I am starving.

In all this I would hope that when the owner switches to other artists in the long run, that he isn&#039;t having these people poach Drew&#039;s van paintings.

The other sad part is that is a steal of a deal to have vans painted at $800, the guy I have clearcoat my motorcycles charges me $500 (it&#039;s worth it tho), you can&#039;t even really get a good vehicle wrap for that price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unfortunate story here is that is really common place, and sometimes it is hard not to be an ass in response, but it is always better to keep it professional.</p>
<p>I have people use the, &#8220;Well this other guy can do it at this price,&#8221; at which time I usually say thank you for the inquiry, and feel free to contact us if you have any future projects. Essentially just walk away.</p>
<p>Artists can be our own worst enemies. I have had one scenario where an artist not only undercut me, but took a digital concept and painted it for the client (despite watermarks on the concept art). The client had actually taken the sketches and solicited others to paint the piece, to save a couple hundred dollars. Anyways the artist that painted the piece was paid a personal visit, the client I let be as even if they have work for me I am sure that I will be booked solid, even if I am starving.</p>
<p>In all this I would hope that when the owner switches to other artists in the long run, that he isn&#8217;t having these people poach Drew&#8217;s van paintings.</p>
<p>The other sad part is that is a steal of a deal to have vans painted at $800, the guy I have clearcoat my motorcycles charges me $500 (it&#8217;s worth it tho), you can&#8217;t even really get a good vehicle wrap for that price.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Shelton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Shelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you didn&#039;t already do this, for future reference you may want to include a clause protecting you against things like that, what would essentially be called an &quot;attrition&quot; clause. For example, if you reduce your regular price based on promised work volume, you would want to include a clause that has the client guarantee a minimum payment if the work falls below the agreed upon volume for some reason other than an act of God, company going out of business, etc. For example, you priced $800 per van based on 50 vans, which totals $40,000 that you are projecting to earn. If the client reduces the number of vans to, say, 25 after you have undertaken the job (which only amounts to $20,000 total income to you), they pay you at least 50% of the lost revenue (or $10,000) in addition to that which is earned. This essentially helps protect you from the client changing the makeup of the job that they legally contracted you to do, and costing you money. It also helps keep the client &quot;honest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you didn&#8217;t already do this, for future reference you may want to include a clause protecting you against things like that, what would essentially be called an &#8220;attrition&#8221; clause. For example, if you reduce your regular price based on promised work volume, you would want to include a clause that has the client guarantee a minimum payment if the work falls below the agreed upon volume for some reason other than an act of God, company going out of business, etc. For example, you priced $800 per van based on 50 vans, which totals $40,000 that you are projecting to earn. If the client reduces the number of vans to, say, 25 after you have undertaken the job (which only amounts to $20,000 total income to you), they pay you at least 50% of the lost revenue (or $10,000) in addition to that which is earned. This essentially helps protect you from the client changing the makeup of the job that they legally contracted you to do, and costing you money. It also helps keep the client &#8220;honest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Brophy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Brophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Big Toe - YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!  You said it, brothah!</description>
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		<title>By: BigToe</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigToe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear that the way you handled the situation left the door open to mitigate the situation.

The bonus is that altho the kids that can afford to undercut you are probably talented artists, no one is gonna be able to do the job nearly as well as drew does, either technically or creatively, for that money. 

Experience is valuable and u get what u pay for.

Cheers! mr. Toe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear that the way you handled the situation left the door open to mitigate the situation.</p>
<p>The bonus is that altho the kids that can afford to undercut you are probably talented artists, no one is gonna be able to do the job nearly as well as drew does, either technically or creatively, for that money. </p>
<p>Experience is valuable and u get what u pay for.</p>
<p>Cheers! mr. Toe</p>
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