Comments on: Is it okay to copy and sell another’s work? Plagiarism and the Golden Rule http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html Live the life of your dreams Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:53:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Luiz http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-24150 Luiz Mon, 26 Sep 2011 04:45:24 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-24150 One of my friend wants me to draw a celeb for him and he's paying me to do it not to buy it from me or something is it still plagiarising? One of my friend wants me to draw a celeb for him and he’s paying me to do it not to buy it from me or something is it still plagiarising?

]]> By: KarenBakr http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-20923 KarenBakr Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:17:44 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-20923 I am not art-trained, just did a couple of afternoons making a mosaic at a community centre and fell in love. I have been making mosaics for 4 years now and can't stop. I get annoyed seeing people say inspired by- when it is actually copied from. Lets use our words! I learned that Artists learn by copying from some greats and others, and even that sits wrong with me- as most of those people are dead and not able to give permission. Who knew.... I wrote an article on my little blog about it because it got under my skin too... http://mosaicartbykarenbaker.blogspot.com/ Copyright and who owns the sun anyway..... I disagreed about your earlier comment saying that it is okay to paint Disney characters in someone else's home. Disney make their own decals for decoration of children's walls- they should be the beneficiary of their images. One could claim there is no financial benefit from doing it, and doing it free -for a friend, but there is the visual benefit, and that is what the money is for- to enjoy the association that those lines and bits of colour represent to the viewer. Well known and trademarked images are a no-go-zone. I recently tried to copy a Lichtenstein work- The Kiss- just for the "lesson value" that I am told artist's get ... It is on my wall- just black and white- didn't use the colour.... but to me it is his work, and even somehow appropriately or not there was always the contention that Lichtenstein had copied his works from comics anyway. I am not sure that I received any artistic benefit from the copying process- that will benefit me in the future- but I got a great big Kiss painted on a canvas on the wall- and that is the benefit I should pay for..... Will I rip it up, burn it or sell it? None of the above! Maybe I will try and mosaic it and I will understand better the reason why people copy...... Interesting thread I came across Googling other stuff.... :) Karen :) I am not art-trained, just did a couple of afternoons making a mosaic at a community centre and fell in love. I have been making mosaics for 4 years now and can’t stop. I get annoyed seeing people say inspired by- when it is actually copied from. Lets use our words!

I learned that Artists learn by copying from some greats and others, and even that sits wrong with me- as most of those people are dead and not able to give permission. Who knew….

I wrote an article on my little blog about it because it got under my skin too…
http://mosaicartbykarenbaker.blogspot.com/ Copyright and who owns the sun anyway…..

I disagreed about your earlier comment saying that it is okay to paint Disney characters in someone else’s home. Disney make their own decals for decoration of children’s walls- they should be the beneficiary of their images. One could claim there is no financial benefit from doing it, and doing it free -for a friend, but there is the visual benefit, and that is what the money is for- to enjoy the association that those lines and bits of colour represent to the viewer. Well known and trademarked images are a no-go-zone.

I recently tried to copy a Lichtenstein work- The Kiss- just for the “lesson value” that I am told artist’s get … It is on my wall- just black and white- didn’t use the colour…. but to me it is his work, and even somehow appropriately or not there was always the contention that Lichtenstein had copied his works from comics anyway. I am not sure that I received any artistic benefit from the copying process- that will benefit me in the future- but I got a great big Kiss painted on a canvas on the wall- and that is the benefit I should pay for….. Will I rip it up, burn it or sell it? None of the above! Maybe I will try and mosaic it and I will understand better the reason why people copy……

Interesting thread I came across Googling other stuff…. :) Karen :)

]]> By: Links – June 24, 2011 « Beautiful Flower Pictures Blog: Floral Photography by Patty Hankins http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-12738 Links – June 24, 2011 « Beautiful Flower Pictures Blog: Floral Photography by Patty Hankins Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:44:57 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-12738 [...] Maria Brophy has Is it okay to copy and sell another’s work? Plagiarism and the Golden Rule [...] [...] Maria Brophy has Is it okay to copy and sell another’s work? Plagiarism and the Golden Rule [...]

]]> By: Maria Brophy http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-11335 Maria Brophy Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:16:16 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-11335 Phillip, Thanks for your comment. In this case, where another artist has emulated your style, but hasn't outright COPIED your artwork, there's nothing you can do about it. There are many artists doing similar artwork on surfboards - you just don't know about most of them. If I were you, I'd let it go and forget about it. There's nothing legally you can do, and in my opinion, having someone else out in the world doing similar work as you isn't going to hurt you in any way. Hopefully, as time goes on, this artist will eventually morph into his own style. That often happens over time. Phillip, Thanks for your comment. In this case, where another artist has emulated your style, but hasn’t outright COPIED your artwork, there’s nothing you can do about it.

There are many artists doing similar artwork on surfboards – you just don’t know about most of them.

If I were you, I’d let it go and forget about it. There’s nothing legally you can do, and in my opinion, having someone else out in the world doing similar work as you isn’t going to hurt you in any way.

Hopefully, as time goes on, this artist will eventually morph into his own style. That often happens over time.

]]> By: Philip http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-11331 Philip Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:49:13 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-11331 Hi Maria et al - I’ve recently discovered that there’s someone who is creating mosaics on surfboards that look extraordinarily similar to my own. When I did an online search and discovered who it was, I realized that he had emailed me in the past - first to find out how I make them and how much they cost and then later to start a discussion about wanting to buy one. The discussion never went any further than that, but now, about 9 months later, I’m looking at a couple of surfboard mosaics online that he made and is selling on craigslist and marketforfree. They’re not exact copies of my boards, and I don’t think the quality is as good, but they are close enough to my designs to at least call them imitations. He doesn’t have a website that I can find, though he does have an Etsy account, which so far, is empty. So far, I haven’t contacted him and at this point I’m looking for other opinions on how to categorize his work, and whether it’s worth contacting him. Is it plagiarism, or just copying my style? These links are to an image file that compares his work and mine, and to a pdf of his current craigslist ad where he is asking a couple thousand dollars for his board. http://surfboardmosaics.com/imitations/surfboard_mosaics_imitations.jpg http://surfboardmosaics.com/imitations/surfboard_mosaics_imitations.pdf Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Philip Hi Maria et al – I’ve recently discovered that there’s someone who is creating mosaics on surfboards that look extraordinarily similar to my own. When I did an online search and discovered who it was, I realized that he had emailed me in the past – first to find out how I make them and how much they cost and then later to start a discussion about wanting to buy one. The discussion never went any further than that, but now, about 9 months later, I’m looking at a couple of surfboard mosaics online that he made and is selling on craigslist and marketforfree. They’re not exact copies of my boards, and I don’t think the quality is as good, but they are close enough to my designs to at least call them imitations. He doesn’t have a website that I can find, though he does have an Etsy account, which so far, is empty.

So far, I haven’t contacted him and at this point I’m looking for other opinions on how to categorize his work, and whether it’s worth contacting him. Is it plagiarism, or just copying my style? These links are to an image file that compares his work and mine, and to a pdf of his current craigslist ad where he is asking a couple thousand dollars for his board.

http://surfboardmosaics.com/imitations/surfboard_mosaics_imitations.jpg

http://surfboardmosaics.com/imitations/surfboard_mosaics_imitations.pdf

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Philip

]]> By: business buzz 5-28-11 http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-10036 business buzz 5-28-11 Sat, 28 May 2011 11:02:09 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-10036 [...] Is it okay to copy and sell another’s work? Plagiarism and the Golden Rule – After this week’s Urban Outfitters debacle, this is something you should really be thinking about. [...] [...] Is it okay to copy and sell another’s work? Plagiarism and the Golden Rule – After this week’s Urban Outfitters debacle, this is something you should really be thinking about. [...]

]]> By: Maria http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-2924 Maria Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:51:09 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-2924 Margie, thank you so much for your comment! You cannot copyright a style, so the answer to your question is this: It's okay to paint in the style of another artist. However, I would encourage you as you continue your artistic path, to evolve from that style into your own. Many successful artists started by emulating the styles of their favorite artists, and then morphed that into their own. Margie, thank you so much for your comment! You cannot copyright a style, so the answer to your question is this: It’s okay to paint in the style of another artist. However, I would encourage you as you continue your artistic path, to evolve from that style into your own. Many successful artists started by emulating the styles of their favorite artists, and then morphed that into their own.

]]> By: Margie http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-2918 Margie Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:48:18 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-2918 Hello, I love this style painting (Maria Carluccio of Oopsy Daisy) and would like to paint a different subject matter but in the same style. Is it okay to sell the painting or is it considered wrong? Thanks, Very new artist Hello,

I love this style painting (Maria Carluccio of Oopsy Daisy) and would like to paint a different subject matter but in the same style. Is it okay to sell the painting or is it considered wrong?
Thanks,
Very new artist

]]> By: DORIS JOHNSON http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-1087 DORIS JOHNSON Fri, 06 Aug 2010 23:25:29 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-1087 WHEN DOES A COPYWRITE BECOME EXTINCT? THERE IS AN OLD PHOTO FROM AN ARTIST, NOT VERY WELL KNOWN, BUT FOUND IN A MAGAZINE,,,PAINTED PROBABLY IN THE EARLY 1920S.....................I WOULD LIKE TO PAINT THIS PORTRAIT, BUT UNSURE OF COPYWRITE LAWS FROM 1920S...... PLEASE ADVISE..THANK YOU, DORIS WHEN DOES A COPYWRITE BECOME EXTINCT?
THERE IS AN OLD PHOTO FROM AN ARTIST, NOT VERY WELL KNOWN, BUT FOUND IN A MAGAZINE,,,PAINTED PROBABLY IN THE EARLY 1920S…………………I WOULD LIKE TO PAINT THIS PORTRAIT,
BUT UNSURE OF COPYWRITE LAWS FROM 1920S……
PLEASE ADVISE..THANK YOU, DORIS

]]> By: Sara http://mariabrophy.com/philosophy/when-is-it-okay-to-copy-and-sell-another%e2%80%99s-work-plagiarism-and-the-golden-rule.html/comment-page-1#comment-1051 Sara Sun, 01 Aug 2010 17:44:50 +0000 http://mariabrophy.com/?p=1817#comment-1051 Sari, I recognize you're very, very knowledgeable and can mutually agree: it's possible to learn something new everyday. ...below is an informative link that is factual and not a debatable opinion in return. Top 10 Most Popular Art Careers: http://www.guidetoartschools.com/resources/popular-art-careers ...to quote a very inspiring and successful professional: "My vision: Is that all creative people get to live the life of their dreams. (And make good money doing it!)" -Maria Brophy. Always thankful, -Sara. Sari, I recognize you’re very, very knowledgeable and can mutually agree: it’s possible to learn something new everyday. …below is an informative link that is factual and not a debatable opinion in return.

Top 10 Most Popular Art Careers:
http://www.guidetoartschools.com/resources/popular-art-careers

…to quote a very inspiring and successful professional:
“My vision: Is that all creative people get to live the life of their dreams. (And make good money doing it!)” -Maria Brophy.

Always thankful,
-Sara.

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